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tough ahead of the next big fight with congress over the debt ceiling. >>> the president said vice president biden has presented him with a list of common sense steps to prevent gun violence. but the biggest question is how much of it the administration can actually get passed through the congress. >>> and watching last night's golden globes, one thing was clear to me, america once again feels good about itself. we've got a new sense of optimism, and the movies show it. >>> the latest attack on science by a republican member of the house science committee. what a strange name for that crowd. that's in the "sideshow" tonight. and this is "hardball," the place for politics. >>> one week away from president obama's second inaugural, and all this week we're going to be looking back at great inaugural moments from the past. back in 1993 the 46-year-old bill clinton took the oath of office for the first time. he became the first baby boomer in the white house and told the country that change is not something to fear. >> when our founders boldly declared america's independence to the worl

, there is a debt ceiling vote. now you hear a lot of republicans making noises about backing down from the debt ceiling fight. it is interesting by the way, i know we're not here to talk about that. it is interesting how the conventional wisdom has shifted on that. >> jennifer: quickly too. >> so quickly. just another sign of the shifting sands. it all hinges on how public opinion turns. and you know, is the president going to go out on the stump? is he going to go out and barnstorm the country for his proposals? how much political capital is he going to put into it? if he really builds up public support for the proposals and public support grows and if they feel pressure, he'll bring a vote. >> >> jennifer: just to take you back to that -- not the fiscal cliff, the debt ceiling issue that the republicans do seem to be going soft on, i do think one of the reasons why they went so soft is because major traditionally republican lobbying groups were advocating like the chamber of commerce came out strongly saying this is crazy. i'm wondering if there are other traditionally republican groups like

, and they need to raise the debt ceiling now, so we can pay our bills on time. >> tom: i'm tom hudson. a sour day for apple investors. the stock tumbles to 11 month lows on new worries about waning demand for the iphone 5. >> susie: but a banner day for g.m., the cadillac ats takes car of the year at the big auto show in detroit, and its new corvette stingray wows gear heads around the globe. >> tom: that and more tonight on "n.b.r."! >> susie: the next big fight in washington has begun. president obama today called on republican lawmakers to authorize an increase in the nations debt limit, saying that messing with it could potentially have catastrophic results for many americans and the overall economy. he warned markets would go haywire if congress does not act, interest rates would rise, and checks to social security beneficiaries would stop. and he said even thinking about the u.s. not paying its bills is irresponsible and, "absurd". darren gersh reports. >> reporter: in his first news conference of the new year the president gave a harsh lecture to republicans about the need to raise the deb

ceiling, which is that not everybody understand what the debt ceiling is about. the debt ceiling, raising the debt ceiling, which congress has to do periodically, gives the government the ability to pay existing bills. it doesn't create new deficits. it doesn't create new spending. so not raising the debt ceiling is sort of like a family, which is trying to improve its credit rating sank i know how we can save money, we won't pay off credit card bills. not the most effective way to improve your credit rating. it was the very slow solution to the debt ceiling in august 2011 i got the u.s. downgraded last time. so it's very, very important that all these issues are important but it's very, very important that congress take necessary action to raise the debt ceiling to avoid a situation where our government doesn't pay its bills. >> a number of people have expressed concern about how much of the challenges actually were addressed in the deal. as you mention it certainly went part way but it leaves another the issues still on the table, and additional negotiations and are looking. would you c

a new plan to eliminate the debt ceiling, claiming the gop is exploiting the issue for political gain. doug mckelway is live in washington with more on the democratic plan and the road ahead. hi, doug. >> reporter: hi, jenna. this democratic plan in a nutshell would basically do away with the statute that calls for the debt ceiling in the first place, allowing spending in effect to go up and up and up without the artificial cap that the debt ceiling is indeed. democrats are explaining this in a press conference right now as we speak, so we'll be learning a lot more about it as the day progresses. republicans obviously deeply opposed to this thing, fearful that democrats will indeed use it to allow spending to go up and up. here is senator john barrasso speaking on fox news this morning. >> we have a spending problem in this country. people all across the country know it. they know it in wyoming. families have to balance their budget every year. many states do. we do in wyoming. it is time for the senate and the house and the president to get serious about limiting our spending and spe

as negotiating with republicans directly about whether the debt ceiling will or will not be raised. the president's position is a congressional obligation f congress wants to hand that authority over to him he will be glad to take it but congress needs to send him a debt ceiling increase. remember the debt sealing acording to the treasury department is due to run out to laps and we would approach a default position sometime in the middle of february, just next month. there is not a lot of time. now republicans have said and i asked the president about this you know, historically the debt ceiling because it oftentimes difficult to get votes in congress to pass a debt ceiling, has often been accompanied by fiscal or deficit reduction measures. back in the '80s, the '90s and even in president's presidency himself he has signed four laws raising debt ceiling. three were tied to some sort of fiscal management, legislation itself. but the president now says i'm tired of negotiating all those things, raised the debt ceiling and then i will get on with other conversations with you about dealing with the

:00 and 9:00 a.m. for the first in line at 9:00. >>> still ahead, debt ceiling deja vu. from social security to interest rates, the president lays down the law and the cuts that could be coming our way. but is the situation as dire as they make it? >>> a somber anniversary in newtown as parents mark one month since their children were killed. their new proposal today and the unthinkable has happened again. a brutal gang rape in india that started with just a bus ride next in "world tonight." >>> also, he used to shoot with his gun. now this former cop uses his camera to shoot 49ers games. >>> welcome back. now if you thought the doomsday scenarios were bad under the fiscal cliff, just wait for what's coming next. >> the debt ceiling talks are under way. president obama warns the dire consequences if congress fails to raise our borrowing limits. in tonight's reality check, sam brock explains why most people should just take a deep breath. sam? >> raj, it would be therapeutic if nothing else. there is certainly little refuting the failure to raise the debt ceiling would send shock waves throug

the u.s. economy and the fed's role in monetary policy. he called on congress to raise the debt ceiling in the release of u.s. can pay its bills. he spoke at the gerald ford school of public policy. >> thank you very much. it is also my great pleasure to welcome all of you here today. on behalf of the gerald r. ford school of public policy, the university of michigan is extremely honored to welcome the hon. ben bernanke, chairman of the board of governors of the federal reserve system. today's conversation is the latest in our series of distinguished lectures, policy talks at the fort school. we're so pleased that region white can introduce to the events and we're also very president marye sue: here today as well as -- we also have several of the university's executive officers and beans. i would like to welcome all of them and thank them for joining us today. it is an honor and truly personal pleasure to introduce our next guest. the fed's charges to provide a healthy economy. this is a complex and critically important mission and it makes the person at its helm one of if not the most

ceiling. the president insisted he would not negotiate the debt ceiling again. the republican response is to give themselves more time before raising it. the partisan posturing, the positioning, that will yield to partisanning battling anew. >>neil: thank you. now, something that is fascinating. four years ago and again here, they get out of the their cars, the president and the vice president, they wave to the crowd, keep in mind they are feet away from the reviewing stand. they get back in the car. then to the reviewing stand and i am sure there is logic and reason and it has to do with the timing of it all but they are feet away. i could touch them. he will take the rest of the way by car. that is the vice president and the president. they will soon be in the reviewing stand. the former chairman of ubs america, a very, very important influential financial player for the obamas and kitchen cabinet type advisors on all things business community. very good to see you. thank you for coming. >> i have not seen you since election night. good to be on. chuck schumer said today the senate w

to a question of the debt ceiling in recognition of all of this economic-- all of these decisions have an impact on small businesses and the fact that we have gridlock in d.c.? do you want to see them work more with the president and try to get a solution as to maybe, the little less extreme than what the president wants or do you want them to dig their heels in the ground and fight it tooth and nail? >> and the principals, they have to understand they only control one third of the government and they have to work with the president to come to a resolution, and the first thing i'd like to see the senate pass a budget. senate hasn't passed a budget in over four years at this point. i think what's going to happen on the debt ceiling they're going to vote to extend the debt ceiling for a couple of months and that's good. we don't want to be in a situation where we're defaulting or the threat of default, but i think they need to tie that back to something and maybe it's not the big and grand bargain with the entitlement plans right now, but i think at a minimum they have to tie it back to getting a

's the view of all of them. >> of course. >>> we'll move onto the debt ceiling with the government on pace to run out of money by mid-february. >> yesterday, the president warned republican leaders raising the nation's borrowing limit was non-negotiable and congress aimed to use it as lever eventuallyiage for deep s. >> while i'm willing to find middle ground to reduce our deficits, america cannot afford another debate. not paying its bills is irresponsible. it's absurd. republicans in congress have two choices here. they can act responsibly and pay america's bills or they can act irresponsibly and put america through another economic crisis. but they will not collect or ransom in exchange for not crashing the america economy. the financial well-being of the american people is not leverage to be used. the full faith and credit of the united states of america is not a bargaining chip. >> you know, it looks like republicans are up against another wall. but they're not going to be able to get -- they're not going to be able to get, quite frankly, some things they really want, if they're serio

because the debt ceiling concern and talks, it's been pretty much nonexistent on the industrial -- >> the markets at fresh five-year highs. >> yeah. it's all because we had the fiscal cliff. and it was so volatile coming into it. we saw some massive swings and massive breakdowns coming into it. it seemed like the market was all over the place. with the debt ceiling, everyone thinks they'll kick the can, raise the debt ceiling up, or get resolved within -- >> that mean the market's at risk? it would seem yes, right? >> see, if you -- my opinion of what will happen is if there's any small breakdown in it, you know, if there's threats that they may downgrade the s&p, whatever, we'll see a breakdown in s&p down to like 14.50, 14.40. but there are so many people waiting on the sidelines, so much cash. and people looking at u.s. equities over the safety play. they'll start coming in, they'll buy. it i think it's going to be a good year for the s&p this year. >> what does earnings season do? hearing from jpmorgan and goldman sachs, the financials have been a driver of major averages mo

that will coalesce. debt ceiling discussion, debt ceiling and the fact that the federal government will run out of money at the end of march. >> all those bring a confluence of an opportunity to drive a debate and drive changes that get us towards long-term prosperity and get us off of this notion that we can just continue to borrow and spend. >> reporter: it is clear most republicans want there to be spending cuts as part of these fiscal matters as they work on long-term extensions or solving these problems long term. jenna. jenna: mike, if we're hearing this, then the white house is probably hearing this as well. any reaction from the white house about potentially this plan from republicans? report or the jenna, --. >> reporter: jenna white house officials are saying if congress doesn't want to raise the debt ceiling they should authority rise president obama to do it himself. they should extend it so it doesn't cause concern for the economy and global markets. >> longstanding tradition for the congress to raise the debt ceiling. this is power they have given themselves, the point is without

low. that's where the complacency comes from. you see it there. as we move into the debt ceiling debate, it can be far harder to solve than the taxes, we think the market can be down for a while, and before it comes back up. >> so you're looking for a decline, and perhaps that is an entry point for some. do you agree with that? >> i think any decline is an opportunity to buy, maria. i'm very, very bullish on u.s. equities and one of the main reasons i am the u.s. energy story which i think is a story that's not being told as well as it should be. in 2012 the u.s. oil production was up 16%. that was the biggest year over year increase in u.s. oil production since 18 at which just happens to be when we started producing oil so if we think about what's going on. we have right now -- right now we produce oil at 80%, the same price the rest of the world does. we produce natural gas at 25% of the price the rest of the world does. we have cheap energy here in the united states and we feel that will drive manufacturing back to the united states, create jobs, and when all this political s

in less than an hour. >> expected to tee off a vote on the debt ceiling bill. what's their new plan? we'll go live to washington next, and even with the immediate threat of the debt ceiling ahead, another's contrarian view coming up. >> chip murky's quarterly result are due out now. those numbers coming up as we continue on the "closing bell." . ♪ into a scooter that talks to the cloud? ♪ or turn 30-million artifacts... ♪ into a high-tech masterpiece? ♪ whatever your business challenge, dell has the technology and services to help you solve it. there. i said it. they don't have pictures of my kids. they don't have my yoga mat. and still, i feel at home. could it be the flat screen tv? the not so mini fridge? ♪ the different free dinner almost every weeknight? or maybe, it's all of the above. and all the rest. am i home? nope. but it almost feels that way. homewood suites by hilton. be at home. >>> all right. they are teeing off this new debt ceiling bill. john boehner will be housing a meeting with key republican leaders at 5:00 p.m. eastern time. >> reporter: >> that's coming

to be a little breezy as well. meanwhile the problem break through on the debt ceiling. the house gop said they are considering raising the debt limit for three months, a vote is scheduled next week, more details on that in a bit. >>> today, of course is the last full day of president obama's first term and it's the national day of service. day for giving back. earlier today the president and first lady volunteered at a school in the washington, d.c. area, nbc's ron is standing by the national day of service day tent at the mall and you have a special guest there with you as well, good day to you, sir? >> reporter: hey there, craig. my special guest is being mobbed by the crowd behind me. it's the senior adviser to president obama. she will make her way here in a second. as she comes up, we will give her a big welcome. welcome, valerie. pleasure to see you. >> pleasure to be here. can you believe the crowd? it's amazing. >> reporter: the president and first lady created this to really hopefully make it a standing tradition for inaugurations going forward. >> not just inaugurations, my mess

to negotiate. and they fired back that the debate over the debt ceiling was the perfect time to consider legislation to cut spending. at the same time, only a handful of republicans have actually said they'd let the united states default on its bills. >> the president claims this, but republicans have always raised the debt ceiling. we've never seen the debt limit fail to be raised. all they have said is we want to apply the same criteria that the president himself applied when he was a senator and say we don't want to give the president a blank check. we would like to fix the substantive problem which is the level and the growth in the debt. >> reporter: markets are almost treating the fight over the debt ceiling as the sequel to a bad movie. and investors have a pretty good feel for how this cliffhanger ends. >> they don't really care about the brinksmanship until they are right up to the brink, but also, the more dangerous the fall, off the brink, they figure the less likely that it's going to happen. >> reporter: treasury secretary timothy geithner told congress today that unless it

the debt ceiling. president barack obama will not negotiate with congress on this issue. while republicans want any increase in the debt ceiling to be tied to spending cuts... >> the issue here is whether or not america pays its bills. we are not attend beat nation and so -- there is a very simple solution to this. >> now in a statement, house speaker phil boehner indicated the republican party is prepared for a fight and the consequences of increasing the debt ceiling are real but so too is the consequences of allowing our spending problem to go unresolved. >>> they are closely watching this debt ceiling battle in washington and if congress does not act on the debt ceiling, the national economy could fall and that would have a negative affect on california's budget numbers. they revealed a budget surplus in many years and that's thanks to a new tax revenue from proposition 30 as well as spending cuts. >>> the social media is buzzing about a possible announcement by facebook. janine de la vega joins us now from menlo park with more on a mystery event that is going to take place in just a f

on this one. the upcoming debt, certainly, the debt ceiling set the tone, really, for what to expect, we think, for the next four years. the battle over that, already. do you see that as the case? >> well, it's certainly going to be a big challenge, both for the president and for republicans. you're already hearing from republicans that came out of their retreat yesterday, essentially walking back, that they were going to use this debt ceiling pretty much to -- you know, as the democrats like to say, to take the economy hostage, to demand spending cuts. they have backed off of that, looking at some plan to raise the debt ceiling at least for the next three months, to give some time for those talks to happen. and there is a big challenge in coming together, because the president still really feels like absolutely, the debt needs to be focus on, it's a huge issue, big priority, but it needs to be done in a balanced way so that all the spending cuts are not focused on programs for those who are most vulnerable. so we'll see. >> so ana, do you think that the debt ceiling will set the tone between

on the debt ceiling. not sure he's going to have it on guns, but he's going to drive the really hard-line republicans crazy because he's going to be able to break off 40 or 50 of them for all these other things. chris: that seems to be true as much as the opposition is hotter and perhaps hardening out there on the right. it does seem that the center right and the center are in play and obama is making his move toward them successfully. >> their governing philosophy coming in is that the fever would break among the tea party folks, among the hard right, and also that just folks in the house would sort of move to the boehner philosophy, which is a governing philosophy. the sort of -- chris: in other words, you don't need a majority of the republicans to rule. >> you break the rule, which is what he's done on these big-ticket items. they have been meeting over these last couple of days to figure out wait forward. i think the president was smart to step into these debates early and often and frame them in ways that americans can understand. and you have house republicans trying to play c

house republicans could avoid a showdown over the debt ceiling. coming up, we will have a live report from our washington d.c. newsroom with not so hidden agenda. >>> tara moriarty tells us about the four victims shot at and they are all teens. >> reporter: ever since we were here, neighbors stopped by to ask us if we have more information because quite frankly they are shocked as the teens were standing here and somebody drove bias -- drove by and shot at them. you can see the bullet holes. this all happened at 6:00 in grandville and the driveby shooting left four young people ranging in age 13 to 16 and luckily they are all expected to survive. they were struck by bullets by three or four males ins side. two middle school boys were here and we don't know if they were in deed the victims. >> i have seen them playing soccer and i have never had any problems with that family. >> so you really are surprised. >> yes, it is very surprising, very scary. >> right now detectives say they have no motive and they are not saying if the shooting is related. we will keep checking in with them all

the nation's debt ceiling. you saw pete sessions, the rules committee chairman, filing that rule on the house floor a moment ago. they met this afternoon to discuss the flan which would require both chambers of commerce to pass a budget plan by april 15 or have their salaries withheld. the debt at $16.4 trillion. the meeting is an hour and 20 minutes. >> i want to welcome our -- three of our four witnesses that are here. it's always a fun thing to see a star of the show, everybody wants to get their autograph. mr. chairman, welcome to the rules committee. we're delighted that you're here today to discuss h.r. 325, a very important bill. and i noticed the former chairman of the committee, the ranking member, is here. we also welcome her testimony that will begin. we'll give mr. brady a chance to get here, but the chairwoman, the head of the house administration committee, the gentlewoman from michigan, and delighted that you are here. as always, the rules committee is delighted that you've taken time, both we were excited about your presence today. a chance for you to be before the committee a

is going on in the nation, debt ceiling, in light of what is really going on here in the city and county of san francisco we need to involve the constituents, because the taxpayers that pay it, you may get the money from the state or the federal, it is the taxpayers who pay the taxes and we need to have some accountability and some transparency. i am not saying that this contractor is going to do his job i hope he does his job quarterly or twice a year or for the duration of this contract we get some reports. so that we can read and see what is happening. thank you very much. >> is there any other member in of the public that would like to make comments? seeing none public comment is close. (gavel) this is an action item. >> mr. chair? >> i know there is question about work between the mta and the transportation authority. can you talk about those issues and how they were resolved? >> both agencies have responsibility especially mta which has legislation for originating parking in public policy of the transportation authority addresses transportation strategies particularly becau

to raise the debt ceiling, right? president obama warned he will not enter into another game of brinkmanship as he referred to it over the debt sealing with republicans. >> the issue here is whether or not america pays its bills. we are not a deadbeat nation. if congressional republicans refuse to pay america's bills on time, social security checks and veterans benefits will be delayed. investors around the world will ask if the united states of america is in fact a safe bet. the full faith and credit of the united states of america is not a bargaining chip. martha: a lot of talk about the president's demeanor at that news conference yesterday. we'll get into that a little bit more coming up but for now does this really come down to an issue of raising the spending limit or defaulting on our credibility as the president has talked about. let's bring in stuart varney, host of "varney & company" on fox business network. so, stuart, you feel the way he is framing this is incorrect? >> yes. we're not going to default, period. we are not going to default. the default means that yo

murkowski told the fairbanks daily news miner that spending cuts should not be tied to the debt ceiling debate. then she added if you incur an obligation, you have an responsibility to pay for that. well, it's nice to finally hear someone from the party of personal responsibility stand up for the government's responsibility. joining me now for the latest on debt politics and much more is michelle bernard the president and korea of the person senator center for women, politics and public policy. she's joining us from washington, d.c. and with me in the studio is the always insightful strategist donnie fowler. welcome inside "the war room"." >> glad to be here. >> i'm going to start with you. the republicans, do we start to see cracks in the wall of obstruction? are they starting to budge or is that just wishful thing on our part. >> no, we're seeing cakes here and there. i have to start off with lisa murkowski. you got to say that women always seem to understand how to-- >> jennifer: so pragmatic absolutely. >> a shout out to lisa murkowski tonight p but also to newt gringrich. what i wo

for the president's dilemma on the debt ceiling. >> the final press conference was held this morning and he talked about the debt ceiling announcing if congress doesn't work with him and raise the debt ceiling america will go into default on the loans and we might have to sell florida. so, take goodbye to nanna and papa. >> you can see jimmy kimmel at the new time following the abc7 at 11. >> and the story behind a baby panda high five that >> on the 4th anniversary of the miracle on the hudson, "sully" sullenberger joins katie couric for a great day and reunited with the passengers he saved in the incredible emergency landing on new's hudson river. >> of all people to be piloting that day, thank god, sully, it was you. sometimes i get on a plane and i am like, sully? anybody named sully on this plane? >> i appreciate that. when i travel as a passenger i have people recognize me and they say i feel better knowing you are here. >> we feel the same way, too. that is katie at 3:00 and you can hear more right here on abc7. on abc7 news at 4:00, a hand's on lesson, high school students get an opportuni

is regarding the debt ceiling why doesn't the president go ahead and implement article 14 of the constitution, and if the republicans want to take this to court, let's go. let's have this conversation. let's explain to the american people why you racked up two wars unpaid for, tax breaks for rich people unpaid for, but you don't want to pay the bills. >> stephanie: exactly. i'm not sure what the white house is -- even on guns -- even any kind of mention of what the president might do on guns they are already talking about impeachment. that's the times we're in. twenty nine minutes after the hour. right back on the "stephanie miller show." ♪ show, to be able to come away armed with the facts, and the arguments to feel confident in their positions. i want them to have the data and i want them to have the passion. but it's also about telling them, you're put on this planet for something more. i want this show to have an impact beyond just informing. an impact that gets people to take action themselves. as a human being, that's really important. this is not j

of the debt ceiling and your own history with the debt ceiling and doesn't that suggest we're going into a default because no one is talking to each other how to resolve this? >> no, major, i think if you look at the history, getting votes for the debt ceiling is always difficult. >> jon: president obama a little testy there answering a question from cbs news white house correspondent major garrett, formerly of this network. it was mr. obama's final news conference of his first term. so, what did you think, judy, about the questions that the president received? only seven of them for a news conference. the answers went on very long. >> you might even say stonewalling answers, each answer was roughly the equivalent of about seven and a half minutes. no wonder there's no time for follow-ups. look, the white house press corps, how many times do we have to talk about it. other than major garrett, who was a sight to see there, even jake tapper said, oh, yes, major always asks good questions, when he was on fox we didn't call on him much. that's what this is about. the white house press c

that's at risk from the debt ceiling debacle? but the full faith and credit of the republic itself? how long can we shrug off this grand canyon plunge that's coming? as we did again with another benign day, dow tipped 29 points, and nasdaq advance advanced .22%. this is behavior. is the market actually smarter than you and i think? i'm starting to believe the latter and tonight i'm going to tell you why. first, i don't necessarily want to invest in a country if it doesn't pay its bills. dead beat country, but i don't mind if it can't pay for its bills but for a moment refuses to. it must honor its debts no matter what. i believe passionately that we will pay debts in a timely fashion. congress is supposed to hold the purse strings, but the american people are less stupid than washington thinks they are. they lived through another one of these scares. that time, we were frightened, frightened about what a ratings agency downgrade would mean to the country. do you remember where you were that weekend when we got the downgrade? i know where i was. philadelphia eagles training camp. and the

the debt ceiling. fitch said the pressure on the aaa is, if anything, increasing. >>> we are four hours away from facebook's secret announcement in menlo park. so far, the guesses range from a facebook search engine to a facebook phone. would either product help lift the stock back with a high water mark. >>> the debate kicks off whether dell can, a, raise the money to go private, and b, reinvent itself without going through cash flow. the journal said the talks have been serious for weeks. >>> lululemon doing a downward dog this morning. raises guidance but not enough to impress investors. >>> the battle over the debt ceiling has warranted a warning from fitch. they said it will prompt a formal review of u.s. credit ratings. fitch does add it expects congress will ultimately approve a ceiling increase. the head of global sovereign ratings for fitch, david riley, will join us in the next hour. bernanke weighing in on the debt ceiling in michigan late yesterday. >> raising the debt ceiling, which congress has to do periodically, gives the government the ability to pay its existing bills.

it happening in more places. >>> the president talked forcefully he will not negotiate about the debt ceiling. let me play what one of your republican colleagues told me about that yesterday. >> would you be willing if you don't get the cuts that you think are necessary, would you be willing to go into default or shut down the government? >> i think there is a way to avoid default, if it requires shutting down certain portions of the government, let's like at that. >> are you worried about a shutdown or worse, are you worried about default? >> i'm worried about both. default is like saying i ran up my credit card and now i'm not going to pay you it's going to be bad for the united states. i think we need to pay our xwils. that's the first thing. with respect to shutting down the government so we save money. we know anytime we shut down the government, we actually spend more money in the long run. i do believe we need or national parks or rangers there. i do believe that it is important for us to ramp up our transportation to fill those potholes, to make those connectors, to give money to am t

right this guy -- maybe this time he means that he is not going to negotiate on this debt ceiling. do you sense that's what is coming out of this? or is there a darker path that they are trying to follow? >> well, what has me so intrigued are the at attentions between the house republicans and the republicans in the senate. if you look at the sequestration and automatic budget cuts, it looks like the house wants to try to blame the senate if things fall apart. so they can say now the burden is on the senate which they have to agree to an overall budget deal by april. and then they can say at that point we'll deal with the debt ceiling. so it was a way to put some pressure on mitch mcconnell. but mitch mcconnell seems to think that okay we'll pass a budget in the senate and then use that as possible leverage with the republicans in the house who might hold up the debt ceiling. >> michael: that makes perfect sense that that is what they are trying to do it is really just passing the buck. the white house held a firm line on saying we're not going to negotiate at a

is what president obama said monday about the debt ceiling. >> so i want to be clear about this, the debt ceiling is not a question of authorizing more spending. raising the debt ceiling does not authorize more spending, it simply allows the country to pay for spending that congress has already committed to. >> mike: well, according to the congressional record, in 2006, then senator barack obama had this statement just before a debt ceiling vote and i quote, the fact that we are here today to debate raising america's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure, it's a sign that the u.s. government can't pay its own bills, it's a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our government's reckless fiscal policies. leadership means that the buck stops here. instead, washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today on the backs of our children and grandchildren, therefore intend to oppose the effort to increase america's debt limit. in 2008, candidate obama blamed president bush and called the growing debt unpatriotic. >> number 43 added 4

weeks back, here is what president obama said monday about the debt ceiling. >> so i want to be clear about this, the debt ceiling is not a question of authorizing more spending. raising the debt ceiling does not authorize more spending, it simply allows the country to pay for spending that congress has already committed to. >> mike: well, according to the congressional record, in 2006, then senator barack obama had this statement just before a debt ceiling vote and i quote, the fact that we are here today to debate raising america's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure, it's a sign that the u.s. government can't pay its own bills, it's a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our government's reckless fiscal policies. leadership means that the buck stops here. instead, washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today on the backs of our children and grandchildren, therefore intend to oppose the effort to increase america's debt limit. in 2008, candidate obama blamed president bush and called the growing debt unpatriotic.

republicans, who want to tie the debt ceiling to cutting spending and obama says blow up the economy and risk the full faith and credit of the united states and to do so is irresponsible, the consequences of not paying our bill would be disastrous. the charges went on and on and on and made it sound like only an anarchist would oppose raising the debt ceiling. listen to this: . >> what i will not do is to have that negotiation with a gun at the head of the american people, the threat that unless we get our way, unless you gut medicare or medicaid or otherwise slash things that the american people don't believe should be slashed, that we're going to threaten to wreck the entire economy. look, i don't think anybody would consider my position unreasonable here. democrats don't like voting for the debt ceiling when the republican's president, but you never saw the situation in which democrats suggested somehow that we would go ahead and default if we didn't get 100% of our way, that's just not how it's supposed to work. >> sean: hearing that i can't help, but be reminded of obama's record on the

. and number two, i think it is fido, as the president said so clearly yesterday, that the debt ceiling essentially must not use to say what then that essentially takes on and essentially undoes the basic full faith and credit of the united states of america. the president made so clear what would he have staked if that were to happen and i just think it's so critical that not occur. you know, i've been through these battles as i've said for many decades, but i don't remember anyone essentially saying we should go over the cliff in terms of the full faith and credit of the united states. the consequences with teeth, i think, to not take, potentially cataclysmic. and for the republicans who essentially say, let's do it, i think that would be a very, very serious mistake with foreseeable consequences. the federal reserve has said don't do it and i think the responsible position is we should not flirt with it. >> said they don't march on me with torches that they start asking you questions. something cataclysmic shouldn't be done in terms of reaching the debt ceiling, yet does science seem

: the new republicans in congress were threatening to vote against raising the debt ceiling. if congress didn't act by august 2, the federal government would be unable to pay its bills. >> in 2010, when all these republicans were running for congress, many of them avowed tea partiers and the rest of them riding the tea party wave, the subject of the impending debt ceiling came up frequently and virtually all of them campaigned saying... pledging not to raise the debt ceiling. >> narrator: early on, republican freshmen attended orientation sessions. republican strategist frank luntz ran one of them. >> and i asked the question, how many of you are going to vote for the debt ceiling? and only three or four of them raised their hands. and i said, if you vote for the debt ceiling, the people who put you in office are going to knock you out. >> if you vote for the debt ceiling, you're voting for your own death certificate, political death certificate. >> narrator: for his part, the president decided to try something new: personal politics. he figured he could connect to the republican leader,

votes do provide a template for how, by the way, the debt ceiling might ultimately get raised. on the tax deal, house republican leaders had political cover from senate republicans. on sandy, chris christie provided the political cover, leaving house leaders, frankly, cowering. now the kotch brothers, through a group they backed, called americans for prosperity, are the latest to give boehner and other house leaders cover on the debt ceiling, as they get their rank and file to pick other political fights. tim phillips, president of americans for prosperity, told the financial times, quote, we're saying calibrate your message, focus on long-term spending instead of long-term debt. focusing on the debt ceiling makes the message more difficult. when i asked walden about the debt ceiling yesterday, he was clearly noncommittal, hinting on where the republican leadership maybe is on this. if there's not a majority in the house republican to raise the debt limit, but there is a majority in the house of representatives to raise a clean debt limit, would this leadership be willing to d

finally announced a debt ceiling plan. kick the can again. this time for three months. in an efforts to put pressure on the senate to do something instead. that's the whole, it wasn't me, i guess, strategy. of course, that means another debt ceiling debate is just three months away. joining us now, bill cohen, a columnist at bloomberg view and by phone we have nbc's luke russert in williamsburg, virginia, covering the house republicans. welcome to both of you. >> thank you, karen. >> luke, i want to start with you. republicans are calling it a plan, democratic leader nancy pelosi call it is a gimmick. it sounds more like -- i mean, my read initially was this is more like political posturing rather than a serious deal. what are you hearing down there? >> well, it certainly is something that's meant to try and force the senate to act. you know, the senate has not passed a suggest in over 1,300 days and that's a popular rallying cry of the house gop. but what came out of this retreat was the idea instilled in members that it's probably not beneficial with the republican brand so damaged

it at the time. but the last time we had one of these debt ceiling debacles that embarrassment was the first downgrade of u.s. credit in history. if congress doesn't act and we default for the first time ever, the consequences are likely to be severe for all of us. federal interest costs would likely rise, business and personal borrowing costs would probably follow. it would also make the struggle to manage our historic debt levels tougher. the worst thing that can happen if you're beck lg under debt, is for your interest rate to go up. it could mean higher taxes and more cults to programs and services from the government. any hope for a controlled fix to our debt problem would be compromised. failing to pay for what we've already spent would be hazardous to the fragile economic recovery now gaining steam. just this week we got a reading about construction of new homes. it jumped 12.1% in december compared to the month before. that's the highest in more than four years. first-time claims for unemployment benefits fell to a five-year low. and the stock market that you invested in your 401(k)

begun to back off on the debt ceiling fight. you note that sandy aid passed even though it only got 46 republican votes in the house. it seems to me this strategy of laying out what you want and then negotiating is better than trying to figure out what the other side wants. >> chairman steel, there's been some discussion as to whether this was even, many of the, that progressive of a speech, but the reaction from conservative outlets -- >> oh, baby, it was. >> i have been waiting for the real barack obama to show up, and i don't mean that as a criticism. i mean that honestly. knowing him as i have come to know him over the years, going back to when he first came to washington as a senator, that's the guy that i as chairman was prepared to do battle against and framed my chairmanship and even wrote a book about how to defeat this agenda, this very progressive agenda for conservatives to wake up coming out of the slumps of 2006 and 2008. >> can i say one thing, though, and ezra, i would like to get your thoughts on this. i thought it was a progressive vision for the country. at the same

-imposed thing coming up is a debt ceiling, something americans have not heard of before two years ago. the debt ceiling is not a question of authorizing more spending. raising the debt ceiling does not authorize more spending. it simply allows the country to pay for spending that congress has already committed to. these are bills that have party been racked up, and we need to pay them. so while i am willing to compromise and find common ground for how to reduce the deficits, america cannot afford another debate with this congress about whether or not they should pay the bills they have already racked up. if congressional republicans refuse to pay america's bills on time, social security checks, veterans benefits will be delayed. we might not be able to pay our troops or honor our contracts with small-business owners. food inspectors, air traffic controllers, specialists who track down loose nuclear materials would not get their paychecks. investors around the world will ask if the united states of america is in fact a safe bet. markets could go haywire. interest rates would spike for anyone who

to duke it out over the debt ceiling, one said we should get rid of it all together? does ben bernanke have a point? >> the nra releases a new target practice ap for kids as young as 4. >> we have a packed show for you this morning. mike thompson joins us and greg walden is our guest. the congressman and newly crowned miss america, mallory hagen will be joining us. tuesday, january 15th and starting point begins right now. . >>> welcome to starting point. after years and years of lying to the world, lance armstrong is finally coming clean. there report he's confessed to oprah winfrey and he used drugs to win his titles. sources say he is in talks to have some of the millions he was paid by the postal service to sponsor the tour. cnn's ed is live in austin, texas. let's talk about what he told oprah and what the next steps are for lance armstrong. >> the big question will be to what extent did he confess and how much detail is he going to offer? also from the standpoint of how did he offer it and what was the body language there? lance armstrong is an athlete who is vehement in his deni

are not a deadbeat nation. we have to pay our bills. is he winning this debt ceiling battle? i know you have written about this on slate. >> i think he is winning intel correct annually and emotional and probably politically with the public but it remains to be seen what congress is going to do. we haven't seen a lot of engagement with congress yet. the debt ceiling somewhere between february 15th and the end of february, early march. we don't know quite exactly where it will be. we don't know whether john boehner and the republican house will look him in the eye and say we are not doing anything. it's a mystery right now. >> in fact, politico reported this week over housealf of house republicans say they are willing to shut the government down if they don't get the spending cuts that they are demanding as a price for raising the debt ceiling. >> that is what they are saying. it's still far enough out so that it could all be posturing. even if i accept it -- and i do -- that half of the house members actually believe that as we get closer, as the pressure builds, c

. as the president subsequently yesterday, the debt ceiling essentially must not be used as a weapon. it essentially takes on an is the basic full faith and credit of the united states of america. the president has made so clear what would be at stake if that were to happen. i just believe that it is so critical that that not occurred. you know, i have been through these battles for many decades. i don't remember anyone essentially saying we should go over the cliff. the consequences would be, i think, shamanic and potentially cataclysmic. for the republicans that say let's do it, i think i would be a mistake with foreseeable consequences. the federal reserve has said the responsible physician is we should not forget. >> the president says he's not going to talk about the debt ceiling, speaker boehner said it can be done unless we cut spending at the same time. what are the odds of avoiding going over the fiscal cliff given where both parties are. >> they are going with the american economy and the global economy. closer you get to the fiscal cliff, i think the less likely it is that the u.s. will b

, is unforgivable is the way to make these policies. second, you have the debt ceiling. it is a marketing tool the country hostage. we know there's going to be a fighter for the debt ceiling. in the past that feeling with a speed bump that reminded folks who are borrowing too much and needed to make changes. it could be a useful reminder. not because of sars are people really worry about the fate of the u.s. government and its economic damage, which is what we saw last time. the third piece, the fact government spending is going to expire in the triple witching hour of these issues is if this will close and is that going to force action of the hardest pieces still remaining for the fact that they still for all intents and purposes, it's good we didn't go to the fiscal cliff, good release revenue, but we basically did what we always do, which is punted the hard choices and try to declare bipartisan victory. it wasn't there. the question as to make make these next moments were set to getting us to really take on policies. and this is part of your question that will do it the necessary savings th

the debt ceiling or put the u.s. economy st. at risk. it's tuesday, january 15th, 2013 and "squawk box" begins right now. >>> good morning, everybody. welcome to "squawk box" here on cnbc. i'm becky quick along with joe kernen and andrew ross sorkin. we've been watching the u.s. equity futures and at least at this point you can see they do look like they're indicated to open a little lower. right now, dow futures down by about 16 points below fair value. the s&p futures are about 2 points below fair value. we have some different nebs going on at the top of the screen than we do on that fair value board. we'll check on that, as well. >>> dell is said to be in talks with private companies in reports of a possible guyout. the journal says jpmorgan is involved in the negotiations. dell shares have been soaring near an eight-month high on first word of this news yesterday. you can see up about close to 2% to the premarket sales. 64 is the last dip. in other technology news, facebook is holing a press conference today. no word on what the big announcement will be. you've heard a lot of analy

between now and the time we deal with the debt ceiling, that we may very well be able to meet the goal which we set out to do, which is to have roughly a $4 trillion cut over ten years, and in the long-term deficit and put us on that path. but i didn't come here to talk about any of those important subjects today because, as important as they all are, today we have a more urgent and immediate call, and that is how to deal with the epidemic of gun violence in america. you all know the statistics very well so i'm not going to repeat them. on that score, i might add, oui an incredible debt of gratitude to many of you at the head table as well as those of you in the room. i know we don't have absolutely unanimity in this ballroom, nor do we in anyway ballroom, but we all know, everyone acknowledges, we have to do something. we have to act. i hope we're all agreed that there's a need to respond to the carnage on our streets and in our schools. i hope we all agree that mass shootings like the ones we witnessed in newton 34 days ago, cannot continue to be tolerated. that tragedy in all my yea

hiring. we may be looking at this debt ceiling, and i'm going to invoke shakespeare, the bard, that this may be much ado about nothing. i'm going there. right here. >> right now? the cliff is -- >> don't you love -- you know, when i first heard, i thought what a great title, i said no, moran, take the shakespeare course first the it's going to be claymation death match, maybe ufc, you and i watch that in our spare time -- not -- but i don't think it's as important as getting through the fiscal cliff. people are hiring again. >> dow transports continue to hit six-year highs. >> even as crude is up 95. >> it's like a market that has transport leadership. did you see union pacific? we had mike's southern on "mad money" he says point-blank, the hole has bottomed and is starting to go higher. and be good to the shutdowns, the coal plants. don't forget china has been burning coal, like you wouldn't believe. much more inventory reduction, because it is so cold. don't care maybe as much about the air. >> apparently not given what we've been hearing out of the beijing. >> can you see y

about the debt ceiling. remember, president bush was in office at the time, so senator obama would probably be against some of the things he was talking about, particularly the debt ceiling. the senator called it irresponsible to increase the debt. listen to then-senator obama. >> the problem is that the way bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the bank of china in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion for the first 42 presidents. number 43 added $4 trillion by his lonesome so we now have over $9 trillion of debt that we are going to have to pay back, $30,000 for every man, woman and child. that's irresponsible. it's unpatriotic. >>steve: there you've got the president, back then senator, back in the day saying that president of ours, he's running up the bills, and it would be unpatriotic what he's doing. and we cannot raise the debt limit. forward to his administration, and i think this is going to be the fourth time he has asked congress to up the debt ceiling. of course what he said is, i know the republic

first term ended with questions about the debt ceiling, questions about gun safety questions about whether this congress will give so much as an inch on any of it. i'm afraid we might already know the answer to the last one. [♪ theme music ♪] >> jennifer: it has been nearly five weeks since the nowtown massacre, and the town's police chief has a very simple message for washington. >> ban assault weapons, restrict those magazines that have so many bullets in them. >> jennifer: progressives are pushing for a ban and diane feinstein says she'll introduce on assault weapon ban later this month. john mccain expressed his doubts. >> do you think an assault weapons ban can pass the congress? >> no. >> do you think it should? >> no. >> jennifer: now the question is without republican support is the president going to push for a ban any ways? so from his progressive basis point of view he has a mandate and he should use it. 62% of americans do support a ban. from the white house's perspective pushing an assault weapon's ban is a risky proposition. the president addre

more cliffs on the horizon, the debt ceiling, sequester and continuing budget resolution. the very beginning of this second movie, how is this going to set the plate? >> well, i think that it's important to note that the hardest part is over. they managed to get through the fiscal cliff without allowing these huge tax increases in spending cuts. they delayed the spending cuts. there's a lot of work ahead of them. there's been deficit reduction they've managed to get done in the past year. the problem, i think, is political. it's not economic. right now, congress is obviously very divided. they're not working together. they're going to have to, if they want to, for instance, raise the debt ceiling and avoid a financial crisis. the question is, can barack obama do a better job of helping them do that because there's been a lot of complaints in congress that he hasn't been leading. he has even offended members of congress by applying they're not doing their job. so i think there's this political question that's overlaid this very thorny economic question. >> will the leadership of thi

. >> reporter: so republicans are offering a compromise on the debt ceiling. house gop members are backing off a requirement to cut $1 of spending for every dollar the debt ceiling has raised. it's a move the president has demanded. >> i do believe it is a recognition of political reality. i think we realize the president won the election. >> reporter: but republicans on capitol hill are not voting to raise the debt ceiling without getting something in return. they say in order to approve a highe debt limit, they want senate democrats to do something they haven't done in four years -- pass a budget. >> for us to have a debate about spending and debt, we've got to have the focus be on a budget and what we're going to do to achieve a balanced budget over time. >> reporter: senate democrats view the vote as an opportunity to raise more money for taxes. >> it's going to be a great opportunity for us. in our budget we lift budget reform which many of my republican colleagues like, but it's going to include revenues. >> reporter: the house is expected to approve the debt

a press conference today. he wanted to talk about the debt ceiling and about the gun control a little bit. he has positive words that are encouraging for those of us who believe he should fight harder. let's listen. >> obama: i want to be clear about this. the debt cereal something not a question of authorizing more spending. raising the debt ceiling does not authorize more spending. it simply allows the country to pay for spending that congress has already committed to. the issue here is whether or not america pays it's bills. we are not a debt-deep nation. >> cenk: i like it. now normally i say it should have been stronger, but it was pretty strong and he made his point very good. it continues. >> obama: this is not an implicatedcomplicateed subject. you don't go out to dinner, eat all your want, and then leave without paying the check. if you do, you're breaking the law. and congress should think about it the same way that the american people do. >> cenk: i like it, man. i do. that's exactly right analogy. you know, of course, i'd go further, but i would every time, right? i'd say list

getting word that as expected the house will vote on the debt ceiling limit for another few months, pushing it back to may 19. the report on this possibility yesterday in washington for the inauguration, this this might be a face-saving gesture on the part of republicans to gather their duffs and buy some time with a president who at least for the time being is more popular than they. what do you make of the timing of this vote? -- and what they will gain? >> i think the republicans were concerned about public perception of them not doing anything and i think it's a bad idea. i mean, i think this kicks the can down the road. move people say, we want a solution today. we don't want to keep having this conversation. every couple of months, we talk about the debt ceiling, what good is a ceiling if you keep raising it and you don't make spending cuts to keep yourself under that number? it has no purpose. >> neil: i want to take a look at the corner of wall and broad. many argue the reason why it was up 62 points is the fact that, whew -- it's a relief they won't bring this to the brink

nothing and there are also no meetings even planned regarding the debt ceiling and the inevitable issue that is are faced by those who need to make the decisions for us. >> yeah. we have got this triple deadline coming up. and nobody -- everybody says they don't want to do it at the last minute the way we did with the fiscal cliff but nobody seems to be talking about it yet. you don't have negotiations started. granted we are in a bit of a holding pattern with the inauguration coming up and maybe things start to happen after that but nobody seems to be jumping in proactively for a solution to these issues that are coming up and that's because they're tough decisions. they're hard. and nobody has something that is universally palatable ready to off offer. >> with that said, will we see a separation of spending cuts the republicans say they want to desperately and separate it from the debt ceiling? as the president said, you can't run out on a meal you have eaten. this is not new debt. this is bills we have acquired. the government and this country must be obligated to do the same. >> wel

that republicans are putting a short-term debt ceiling hike on the table. short-term debt ceiling hike. but here's what i'm not hearing and what we should be hearing is an unambiguous plan to splash spending now. republicans need an absolute rock solid plan to implement the sequester which is $1.2 trillion over the next ten years. this is essential. not just to unite the republican conference. but more importantly, it's essential to helping the economy grow more rapidly. and if the republicans don't get it done, i'll say this. they may lose the house in 2014. so let's talk with karen finney. who's a columnist for the hill and former dnc communications director. and hadley heath, senior policy analyst at the independent women's forum. hadley, this paul ryan, he went out and met with reporters. republicans are in the retreat down in williamsburg, virginia. maybe they'll use a short term increase in the debt ceiling maybe three months or six months. is that the point? how does that inform you? does that get to the heart of the matter? >> it certainly doesn't get to the heart of the matter. if we re

to face the tax issue, as well. it's not just raising the debt ceiling that he's going to have to deal with. but he's going to have to negotiate with the republicans and perhaps try to change the tax code. all of these things are things he's already signaled he wants to do. what's fascinating is that this is a president who wanted to be a domestic president in the last -- in his first term and he was saddled with an economic situation and two wars to deal with. now is a shot to be that domestic president and make some really big change. but he's going to have to work with republicans in the house in order to get big things accomplished. >> and clearly what he wants to do is have some influence on voters. and though the official announcement is expected today, we do know that obama for america is going to become this nonprofit supporting his agenda. what kind of influence could this have? >> well, i think if you're an obama supporter, you hope it has more influence than it did or what they tried to do during his first term. they talked a lot about this leveraging his campaign which ever

of extending the debt ceiling three months, until april and clean, except for the fact they want to link it to the idea that both the house and the senate pass a budgetnd and if they don't they lose their pay? >> i think -- we don't think short-term is smart for the economy, 2-3 months still has uncertainty and we are very pleased to see the republicans in the house drop their previous position, which was, you know, they were only going to pay the bills, essentially, they racked up if that he got what they wanted from the deep spending cuts in medicare and other programs. so that is progress but what we need to do is, washington needs to start contributing certainty and help to the economy and if you talk to anybody in the country -- >> you will not veto a three-month extension, are you? >> again, i think that there is long term debt and short-term debt. i think we have made progress on the budget and cut spending, in 2011, the budget was cut over a trillion dollars and signed a -- >> you were forced into that by republicans. >> no, we weren't and we were sitting around the table with th

the debt ceiling so we should do it. we need to, you know, have a budget and need to reduce the deficit and need to make investments for the future. what he wanted to talk about is what a great country it is and how we need to make sure it's a country that offers opportunity for all americans and expands the middle class. >> you have been in the trenches. you know how divided congress is. do you think by not using words like compromise, by not reaching out in that very high profile speech, that it was a missed opportunity as some republicans are suggesting? >> well, i think that, you know, it's a little bit of looking backwards and the president was looking forward. i think what he was really saying is and reflecting in a way on his last two years, is he sought to compromise and compromise and compromise again and has gotten so little from the republican leadership. i think what the speech yesterday was about is we need to move forward and if going to, you need to know i'm going to be a determined president. we know the path forward. we may disagree on some things but let's get done wha

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and the national debt. the president wants to raise the debt ceiling for the 5th time in his administration but he doesn't want to commit to many spending limitations in the future. the house could possibly not give the president the power to raise the debt ceiling in february. >> republicans in congress have two choices here. they can act responsibly and pay america's bills or they can act ir responsibly and put america through another economic crisis. >> so you can see what the president is doing. he wants americans to believe the gop is the problem not massive spending. likewise on the gun control issue. the president wants it to come to a head to highlight republican opposition to limiting guns and ammunition. joining us now from washington fox news political analyst brit hume. seems to me presidethe presiden playing politics rather than problem solving. >> i think you have a point he would like to get republicans into it. i would put it a different way in the sense that i think he would be perfectly happy to get the gun control measure that he favors whatever they turn out to be when the reco

of the american people over the debt ceiling. former reagan political director ed rollins, a clinton adviser doug shown a bond our guests. our first says it is unlikely the obama administration will push through a ban on assault weapons or a ban on large capacity ammunition magazines. the white house task force on gun violence as he said, failed to address the concerns of governors. joining us now, president of the national rifle association. good to have you with us. this has been a remarkable state in the presentation by joe biden to the present, the statements by the president himself and a press conference. hastily called saying that make taking guns away from people isn't about the second amendment your reaction. >> it is. it is about american freedom. this is a president who has spent his life as an opponent of second and minarets in this country. he promised before the election board that after the election you start to do something. he has this whole public-relations -- relation operation financed to a mere blumberg of new york that was ready to swing into action. what newtown gave him wa

's debt ceiling and the effort to stop mass murderers in america. >> my point is to focus on what makes sense, what works. >> one month after the shooting at newtown it is time to come up with action. >> we to have answers. >> he will announce his specific plan within days. the possible gun proposals and could they actually become law? plus the lance armstrong interview. he's denied he doped for years. >> sick and tired of these allegations. they are absolutely untrue. >> the support gave him the boot. >> lance armstrong has no place in cycling. >> now and for the first time lance armstrong says he's opening up about what really happened. >>> and hundreds of people hunting giant snakes. >> the species of the day is ber mes python. >> i have a machete and side arm. >> man verses python in the florida everglades. >> breaking news with lance armstrong. first president obama still supports an assault weapons ban. he admits it may not make it through congress. the president head a news conference and said the ban is one idea he is considering after a list of recommendations from joe biden. i

will air on thursday. >> president obama making his case for raising the debt ceiling. this morning the president says he will negotiate on spending cuts but not on the debt ceiling. mark matthews is here now with more on what sat stake. >> republicans in the house say they won't raise the debt gmu and president agree to corresponding cuts. the president outlined the stake autos the president began by defining the issue. >> debt keeling is not a question of authorizing more spending. it allows the country to pay for spending that congress is committed to. >> he said americans understand the concept. >> you don't go out to dinner and... then, you know eat all you want. and then... leave without paying a check. >> if you do that, it's against the law, said the president. he added if congress fails to raise the debt ceiling american people will pay the price. >> social security checks and veteran benefits will be delayed. we might not be able to pay our troops or honor our contracts with small business owner autos again and again, the president repeated the fact raising the debt ceilin

in terms of what they can do, specifically on the debt ceiling, for example. we just heard the house republicans are going to try to negotiate a short-term debt ceiling deal so they can try to go for a grand bargain. second-term presidencies have just been spent and filled with misspent political capital that has just eoverreach in terms of presidents looking for a legacy and overspending their political capital. that's the risk president obama -- >> interesting in this cnn poll that just come out, how is president obama handling his job as president, approve 53%, disapprove 42%. but when they are asked how is the country headed, right direction 35%, wrong direction, 57%. they approve of the president but think he's going completely in the wrong direction. he's a lucky boy, many would argue, that he's gotten a second term, given the state of the economy, given the fact that most americans think the country is going in the wrong direction. he's been given that lucky second chance. and he campaigned well. you have to give him that. what are his challenges in the second term? >> the fir

taxes or is there more to it. >> you look at every fight whether its fight over the debt ceiling, fight over guns, immigration, and you're going to see brutal fights. why? this is one of the most polarized congresses we've had in years. you have democrats and republicans who make up the majority occupying very conservative districts. there is very little political incentive for either party to come together and making a deal, and republicans bringing the nation to a government shut down may makes sense to them. >> john: you talked about how obama managed to drive a wedge between red state republicans and blue state republicans. is that what he's trying to do on the debt ceiling debate as well. >> you can the white house adopt a divide and conquer strategy for quite a bit of time. there are 85 house republicans who voted yes on the bill and created the margin it needed to pass. here's the interesting thing of those 85 republicans who voted yes. 70 of them came from blue states. states that voted for barack obama over mitt romney last november. in other words the white house is defending

. it was enough. it got us through that period. then we said, well, we've got to two months until the debt ceiling. it's the 17th today and it just feels different. we're not -- we don't have a clock on cnbc showing the days to the debt ceiling when we hit it. it just seems like the market b is getting desensitized and we figure something -- it's not going to be the deal that we thought. is that true? do we know that, that it's not going to -- you know, derail this? >> my sense is, joe, you might be back to a clock in about a month. i think the one thing we learned from the fiscal cliff was don't really pay attention to anything that comes out of washington until "d" day. >> so that is what we're doing now. we're looking at individual results. >> and i think that's actually what people want. they want to trade in the market. the nice thing about you is you're talking about earnings, you're talking about things that matter to the market right now. everyone i talk to is saying i'll deal with the debt ceiling when i get there. actually, if there was a lot on worry there, we wouldn't be going, budding

of representatives faces a vote to increase america's debt ceiling. pending legislation raises the debt ceiling by roughly $300 billion to $400 billion. what protection does america get in return? are there any spending cuts? no. are there policies that spur economic growth in resulting revenue increases? no. does this proposal help fix in any way the trillion dollar deficits that threaten america with financial ruin? no. mr. speaker, i can only speak for me. i will not vote to raise the debt ceiling unless significant efforts are made to fix the underlying problem of deficits and accumulated debt that force debt ceiling votes and risk america's future. i will not vote to raise the debt ceiling unless first congress passes a substantive balanced budget constitutional amendment that solves the debt problem for future generations or, second, we implement sizable spanneding cuts that help get our financial affairs in order. i take this stance full well knowing the adverse economic effects of a failure to raise the debt ceiling, but also knowing, mr. speaker, that those affects pale in comparison t

's in south carolina. and this headline in the aiken standard -- then, on the debt ceiling debate, the ways and means chairman has announced there will be hearings on this on january 22. they will be taking a look and that. also in the newspapers this morning, here's the "washington times with this headline -- " he will be our guest coming up, the top democrat on the ways and means committee in the house. later, we will talk to the chairman of the house judiciary committee, representative goodlatte, on the washington journal this morning as well. two members of congress. continuing with the debt ceiling, the financial times this morning reports -- on the nomination of chuck hagel, a former nebraskahe ka senator.m he won the support of two key members. his opposition so far has come almost entirely from fellow republicans. those are some of the headlines this morning in the papers. back to our question, do you support executive action on gun- control measures? now to an independent caller. caller: hi. i just wonder if there are any human beings left. the underlying issue has very little to d

we're going to do, we're going to pass a three or four-month extension of the debt ceiling. then we're going to get into a fight on the sequester and hold the line of the sequester. this is a promise the leadership is making to us. as long as they keep that promise i think many conservatives will be ok with that. then when we get to the debt ceiling fight we're going to ask for at a minimum the one--- the one-for-one cuts that come from the boehner rule for any long-term debt ceiling extension system of if we look at that, it means that in 10 to 15 years, with very little help from the democrats, we can achieve a balanced budget which is much better than even the 23- to 27 -- better than the 23 years to 27 years and obviously better than the never balancing budget obama and the democrats have proposed for the last four years. so you look at all the data out there. all the public opinion polls say that the american people think we're spending too much money. that the american people think that we are taxing too much. but the problem is that as republicans, i think this goes to what r

voting for the debt ceiling when there is a republican president. but you never saw a situation in which democrats suggested somehow that we would go head and default if we didn't get 100% of our way that. is not how it's supposed to work. >> sean: i can't help but you remind that had obama in 2006 was a junior senator from illinois who opposed raising debt ceiling that. is right. barack obama scolding republicans for linking p spending cuts to raising debt ceiling himself voted against raising the debt ceiling. here is what the anointed one said in 2006, said leadership means the buck stops here, washington is shifting burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and our grandchildren. er america has a debt, and a failure of leadership. americans deserve better, i, therefore, intend to oppose the efforts to increase american's debt limit so he is doing what he said shouldn't be done. but in doing so is demonstrating his morale superiority. the second thing we saw today is on full display he said republicans were sus spishus about social security and government support for

conservatives for their debt ceiling hostage tactics. today it was the editors of the national review who said it was a bad idea. americans for prosperity, which is backed by, yes, the koch brothers, also said it was a bad idea. even newt gingrich, the rotund king of so many boad ideas, has said enough. >> in the end it's a threat they can't sustain. no one is going to defall. no one is going to allow the united states to not pay its bills. >> joining us now from washington is david corn, d.c. bureau chief for "mother jones" magazine and jared bernstein is a senior fellow at the center on budget and policy priorities. good afternoon to both of you. jared, if president obama were the one holding the debt ceiling hostage, right as the housing, auto, and retail sectors seem to be rebounding, wouldn't the house republicans be calling the president's tactics those of a socialist who wanted to bring down the american economy? >> i think they would, and i appreciate your bringing the economy into it. the president did that yesterday. the more we talk about the debt ceiling after obsessing over the fi

and they will be able to meg officiate on the debt ceiling. you about want to find a way out of getting boxed in on the debt ceiling themselves, believing a fight over funding the government is a much better political fight for their party. here's congresswoman marsha blackburn yesterday. >> i think there is a way to avoid default. if it requires shutting down certain portions of the government, let's look at that. >> yesterday the president sounded almost resign to the idea a government shutdown is probably coming up. >> if the republicans in congress made a decision they want to shouldn't down the government in order to get their way, then they have the -- votes at least in the house of representatives probably to do that. i think that would be a mistake. and it would be profoundly damaging to our economy. >> once again, what the white house was trying to signal on debt limit in government shutdown is this. they are not going the try to help republicans find a way out of it. they have to own debt limit and republican leaders know they need to move off of debt limit. they are trying to find

economy hostage. if the house can pass a clean debt ceiling increase and meeting the existing obligations we will be happy to consider it. here we are as i said three days before inauguration and it looks like another fight that the republicans are not prepared to it seems to follow through on despite the threats. >> zachary and i were having a conversation in the green room and i said i don't understand the meaning of a second inauguration for the president. i get it now. the reason we need another inauguration is apparently one party doesn't understand we had an election in november and they lost. which means that you move on and you let the president be the president of the united states. these guys still want to fight the old battles of 2012. >> but they're giving this extension now. >> a three-month extension. the white house should tell them to go shove it. you can't run a government three months at a time. you have to have a long-term planning. bad for the markets. bad for the country. bad for the economy. let's make clear, definitive decisions. you lost. let's come together and co

unconstitutional, and an extension of the debt ceiling for about three months which is okay. . it doesn't really go to the heart of the matter. we're going to have a report on this whole story in just a moment. . meanwhile, better news, the stock rally continues up 54 points on the dow, 161 points for the week. get this, a 35% gain in the broad s&p 500. . just since early october 2011. that's right. it's like a stealth rally. it keeps on moving. we'll talk to a leading investment ceo a bit later in the program. . first up, in williamsburg, virginia, today, house republicans have agreed to take up the plan next week to extend the debt ceiling with some conditions. i think that's boring and uninspiring. let's go to the source of this cnbc contributor robert costa. . . i think it's boring, boring, boring. you tell why this is a great. are not attached to this proposal. very three months. let me say this, from all my reporting down there in eastern virginia default on the debt. so what they're trying to do is just punt on the debt ceiling and focus the spending cut fight on the upcoming continuing reso

raising the debt ceiling gives the government the ability to pay its existing bills. it doesn't create new deficit spending. so not raising the debt ceiling is sort of like a family that's trying to improve its credit rating. families that say, i know how we can save money, we won't pay her credit card bills. it was the sole solution to the debt ceiling in august of 2011 in the u.s. downgraded last time. so all these issues are important and it's very important that congress take necessary action to raise the debt ceiling to avoid a situation where government doesn't pay its bills. >> a number of people have expressed concern about how much of the challenges actually were addressed in a deal, it certainly went part way, but leaves a number of issues still on the table. would you care to raise that as an additional fiscal cliff that is facing us? would you think that it's not as concerning as it was when you raise that term initially? >> as i said the fiscal cliff, if it is allowed to take place, it probably would have traded a recession this year. a good bit of that has been a

the debt ceiling for three months. what this bill will actually do is set a provision that if the senate does not pass that budget in three months then their pay checks would be withheld, so that's the enforcement mechanism. it actually doesn't require any promise that the senate do its budget. there's conceiveably still the thought that they could not do the budget and not get paid. host: so then the house would respond in kind? tell us a little bit then why use this as a mechanism? >> the strategy here is they are trying to go on offense again, because they had a brutal holiday stretch of sort of failed negotiating ploys and in-fighting and they are trying to turn the tables so people will talk about why went to democrats cut spending? one way they can do that is by talking about the fact that the senate hasn't passed a budget in four years. it's uplimited value there's a conventional wisdom that it's not that important but when the people in the country hear that the senate hasn't passed a budget which sounds like a basic failure of their duty and it's an effective talking point the r

for the next four years? also, house leadership on the debt ceiling, what's the next move there? former white house economic adviser todd buckles will be with us. thank you fowatching. see you right back here tomorrow. have a good nigh ♪ lou: good evening, everyone. president obama today delivered his second and final inauguration speech in front of an estimated crowd of a million people. nearly half of the 1.8 million who saw the president's swearing in back in 2009. president obama marking the occasion, pushing the liberal concept of more government taking campaign style jabs at his political opponents all the while. >> progress is not compel us to settle, century's long debates about the role of government for all time, but it does require us to act in our time. [applause] for now, decisions are upon us. we can want afford delay. we can want mistake absolutism for principle. substitute speck tack kl for politics or treat name calling for reasoned debate. [applause] we must act. we must act knowing that our work will be unperfect. we must act knowing that today's victoryings will -- victo

for the eurozone, as well, it's not just about the debt ceiling, they have to get the debt down. the debt ceiling may get raised, but it's not being tackled long-term. >> it seems every single time consistently we get the opposite outcome. which means some areas are consistent and it raises debt levels going forward. >> it seems to me as though we can't fix this one because democratically it's not possible. why? because there are so many verses who are automatically vote to increase the debt because the number of people who own entitlements or benefits is relatively high. and i think you're seeing this failure both in the u.s., in germany and to an extent in the uk. >> the trouble is for all of those economies maybe some of the european ones are under pressure by the government. but the problem is, if you look at issues in the u.s., they're just so low. there's no ability to cut in the long-term. how do you push through entitlement reform and address those issues, especially if there's no market pressure right now? >> my sense is that you don't. i don't understand how that can be achieved and, th

the debt ceiling. this is the question we posed. is reduce the federal deficit a worthy goal? this is interesting you may recall white house press secretary made news by stating that deficit reduction is, quote not a worthy goal onto itself. 77% of voters disagree with them and that includes large majorities of republicans, independents and democrats. what is your take on this? >> again i don't want to be a downer here, the question is what urgency to do they place on that. we had an election two months ago where there were two candidates, one was more focused on cutting the deficit and reducing our long term debt and one didn't think it was a big concern. the one who didn't think it was a big concern won the election. yes, voters seem to say that is an issue they agree with, but when it came to election day two months ago that certainly wasn't one of the top issues they voted on because they voted for the candidate who wasn't embody go it. >> heather: through his actions, as well. that leads to this, how f or if it should be raised? should the debt limit be raised again, 23%

across the country. >> we're going to change to debt ceiling now. white house leader eric cantor says the gop -- they're going to give them a three-month reprieve, they're going to temporarily approve a debt limit increase. the president said no negotiating on the debt limit ceiling. is this a victory for the president or do you see this as just a postponing of the inevitable standoff? >> it's both. it is a victory for the president, the republicans have been saying, we're not going to raise the debt ceiling unless we have every dollar of the debt ceiling goes to spending of that same amount. they've conceded they're going to extend the debt ceiling without any cuts. but that moves us to now where government funding expires on march 31th. at that point, we'll have a s w showdown in which republicans insist on spending cuts. there will still be some kind of fight. we will have a clock to some kind of catastrophic event that could happen, like we had in december. but it would not be with the debt ceiling. the republicans seem to have conceded to the obama. they're worried that obama ha

was the looming fight over the debt ceiling saying that america is not a dead beat nation. mr. obama installed that he is not willing to negotiate when it's coming to raising the ceiling. if it's not raised, social security checks and benefits for veterans could be delayed. it could be harder to pay your bills now than it was a month ago. that is because uncle sam is taking an extra 2% out of everyone's check for social security. for most people in the bay area, that is about $80 a month or $1,000 a year. >> scott? >> we will do it with the help of mobile apps. now, step one if you have a mobile device. try to avoid the temptation to upgrade. there you saved your 80 dollars a month already. we have apps to show you, most of us is have to drive and spend money on gas. this app is from the yellow pages. it can save you money. helping you find gas stations and ways to change your oil and tires that are close and less expensive than whatever else is around you. lock in your favorites. map them out, save money. another way to save money. grocery shopping, with strategy this can shave you bucks. you

have to do what he calls the right thing on raising the debt ceiling. he says if they don't the u.s. faces a federal default and confusion in financial markets. >> the republicans can act responsibly and y amica' bills or put america through another economic crisis. >> obama says raising the debt limit is necessary for the government to meet its obligations. he said he's willing to compromise on cutting the budget deficit but not in exchange for increasing the debt ceiling. the u.s. government has reached a borrowing limit set by law but republicans continue to reject an increase without spending cuts in social security and other programs. now it's not the first time the u.s. has faced such a stand off. in the summer of 2011 the government and coness mained at odds over raising the limit until the last minute. the incident weighed down on share prices. it also prompted the first downgrade on u.s. government bonds. global car makers are showcasing their latest model at the 2013 international auto show in detroit. more than 50 new models are on display. the u.s. automarket has been

in office. talked pose i about the debt ceiling. he announced if congress doesn't work with him and raise the debt ceiling will america will go into default and we might have to sell florida. say goodbye to nana and pop pop. >> chimpy up next. >> the morning news starts at 4:30 appreciate your time have a good night. a good night. >> good night "jimmy kimmel live"! tonight ellen degeneres. the bachelor sean lowe. and music from onerepublic. with cleto and the cletones. and now from this point on, here's jimmy kimmel! [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: welcome. hi, i'm jimmy. i'm the host. thanks for watching. thank you for -- raising the arctic 50 degree weather to be here tonight in hollywood. very kind. i do appreciate

, president obama told reporters the u.s. can't afford a drawn-out debate over raising the debt ceiling, which could reach its lmit in mid february. "raising the debt ceiling does not authorize more spending. it simply allows the country to pay for spending that congress has already committed to. these are bills that have already been racked up, and we need to pay them." president obama warns that if the debt limit is not raised or used as leverage by republicans, markets would go haywire, interest rates would rise, and checks to military veterans and people on social security would end. gop senate minority leader mitch mconnel reponded by saying, "the president and his allies need to get serious about spending, and the debt-limit debate is the perfect time for it." traders will get their first opportunity to react to comments at the market close yesterday by federal reserve chairman ben bernanke. among the highlights, the fed chair says, the federal government is not out of ammunition, the fed's bond-buying program is not likely to lead to higher inflation, and the fed sees positive signs in

as this debt ceiling debate really gets heated up. > thanks greg. > > thanks angie. gm is giving its north american factories a billion-dollar facelift. the automaker plans to overhaul about 70% of u.s. auto models. so far, the remodeling includes redesigns for its full- size pickup trucks, a new chevy corvette stingray and a cadillac luxury version of the volt plug-in electric car. the kaiser family foundation is crunching the numbers on medicare. it finds if medicare's eligibility age is raised to 67 next year, federal spending drops by $5.7 billion in 2014. but, health insurance payments by other americans rise by $11.4 billion. medicare is likely to come up in the debt ceilng debate. president obama has said he is willing to make minor adjustments. house republicans want severe cuts to stop the increase of medicare spending. the employment picture remains mixed around the globe. many employers in brazil, india, russia, china and the u.s. expect to add staff in 2013, according to careerbuilder. but europe will feel the pinch of austerity. a third of employers in italy expect to reduce s

to do and authorize an increase in the debt ceiling so we can pay our debts. i think that is what will eventually happen. i do not think the going often the other direction would be that helpful. >> -- that going off in the other direction would be that helpful. >> i am a second year at the board's school. does the debt ceiling still have a practical purpose? could it be eliminated without much consequence? >> it has got symbolic value. maybe one or two other countries, but essentially no other countries and the world have this particular institution. the congress appropriates $100, tells the government to spend $100 on whatever, and then it raises $80 in revenue through its tax code. the arithmetic here says, you have to borrow $20. no, congress has to give a third 100-80 = says the 180at 20. logically, there is got to be something to make up the difference. the way to address it is by having a sensible plan for spending, insensible span foplar revenue. as i was saying before, this is like a family saying, we're spending too much. let's stop paying our credit card bill. that is n

's victories will be only partial. >> reporter: republicans are offering a compromise on the debt ceiling, house g.o.p. members are backing off a requirement to cut $1 of spending for every dollar the debt ceiling is raised. it's a move the president has demanded. >> i do believe it is a recognition of political reality. we realize the president won the election. >> reporter: republicans on capitol hill are not voting to raise the debt ceiling without getting something in return. they say in order to approve a higher debt limit, they want senate democrats to do something they have not done in four years, pass a budget. >> for us to have a debate about spending and debt, we've got to have the focus be on a budget and what we're going to do to achieve a balanced budget over time. >> reporter: senate democrats view a budget vote as an opportunity to raise more money through taxes. >> it's going to be a great opportunity. in our budget that we will pass we'll have tax reform, which many colleagues like but it will include revenues. >> reporter: the house i

. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 >> $64 trillion and counting. the nation's debt ceiling. to cut to red, my next guest advocates more green when it comes to health care. the called the health reduction. she said there would be a method. explain. >> well, actually, the public option would decrease the deficit by about $104 billion over ten years. >> how too you know that? >> that's the congressional budget office estimate. of what it would do. this is not numbers i made up. because it would inn fact lower the -- provide an option -- this would be completely by choice -- for people who don't want to pick this public option, among the private sector choices within a health exchange, and rates for premiums are estimated to be about 5 to 7% lower, meaning those people in the exchange that needed a subsidy would take fewer tax dollars and it is also estimated that it would serve as an anchor, because there's competition, to bring down the cost of health care, even in the private sector as well. >> when is the government -- when is the government ever done that? with george bush's plan, you were critic

will not negotiate on the debt ceiling, even accusing republicans of an unfortunate metaphor, holding a gun at the head of the american people, as he ut it. meanwhile, treasury secretary tim of the airline's the united states to default on payment as soon as mid february. for more of the president's is covered son joined by former reagan political director ed rollins, former pleasant to have clinton political adviser. let's start with the president's news conference today. the president seemed, well, you characterize it. he seemed to fill in the blank " >> i would say congeal. meaning that he tried to portray himself as reasonable and said that there was now negotiating and the debt ceiling, lesley because he is in a strong position politically in that the most would agree that the republicans are showing no signs of real life. lou: do you agree? >> i think the republicans rolled over and play dead. at this point in time they will draw a line in the sand. no believe they should shut government down, but i think this is a position where they need to make their se known. the president said ov

, are you also going to be faced almost immediately with the whole crisis over the debt ceiling. not house has been holding really firm. what do you think about coming into this partisan divide coming up here in congress? >> well, i mean, i hope to be part of a freshman class and a group of folks in congress who can take care of the finances and systems without creating more self-inflicted wounds. we know that last time we went through this it hurt the stock market nationally. it hurt our bond ratings. we have to create something that doesn't create this self-inflicted wound every couple of years. >> half of the time, the great castro brothers from texas. thank you very much. we look forward to seeing you when you are here in washington. welcome to congress. >> thank you. thank you. >> and up next, second term challenges. how can president obama work with republicans? mary madeline joining us, and still ahead, the heisman hopeful, and the made-up girl friend. was he a victim or an accomplice? what are you doing? nothing. are you stealing our daughter's school supplies and taking them to wo

, gun control, immigration reform, debt ceiling. the president is going to try to lay out a grand vision. his aides say he wants talk about it coming together but others suggest he wants more division. >> he is going to talk about our political system doesn't require us to resolve all of our disputes, but it does require to seek common grouped. he'll make that point that people in washington need to seek common ground. >> i was surprised to see him transition his campaign committee to have an effort on the washington debate because it doesn't seem to me that the lesson of the first term worked out very well. >> roy blunt saying that what he wants to see and beyond is more presidential leadership. the president's aides say he'll talk about the leadership but more of a grand vision as we have seen in many addresses, especially in the second term, president bush and is the clinton, they tried to shape a vision. he will fill in the policy details whether he goes back to the capitol hill. >> arthel: ed, thank you very much. did you know that each inauguration has a seen. tomorrow it's called

and the debt ceiling. the president simply will not offer any compromise on federal spending that might get a debt deal done. on guns as we just heard, is he threatening executive orders. so i think the president simply wants to damage the republicans rather than solve complicated problems, at least at this juncture. joining us from washington with his take fox news political analyst charles krauthammer. i see it as a chess game. rather than both parties working together to get some gun legislation that might help folks control criminals in that area and rather than getting the debt ceiling done with some, you know, meaningful cuts in spending, the president says, you know, i'm not even going to bother. i want to alienate the republicans so that people will be angry with them. am i wrong? he has been doing that since elections day, i wrote a column ever since september pointing out entire strategy for the fiscal cliff was to split the republicans. it had nothing to do his offers had nothing to do with solving the fiscal issue or solving the debt. he showed nothing to solve the debt since he

back at 6:00 the president draws a new line in the sand on america's debt ceiling. what happens if the limit isn't lifted? who will feel it first? >> a gun buy back. it's not just weapons they're after. a poll revealing hows&á america feels about gun control. >> and the internet hero who took his life in the middle of a new campaign for social justice, online. stay with us. the ne hmm, it says here that cheerios helps lower cholesterol as part of a heart healthy diet. that's true. ...but you still have to go to the gym. ♪ the one and only, cheerios ...and now... you! [ giggles ] ♪ the one and only, cheerios >>> president obama insists he will not negotiate with white house rinz over the debt keeling and says the full faith and credit of the united states will not be a bargaining chip. abc 7 news mark matthews is here with the challenge that the president is facing on this. >> the president says concept understand.jjw that is not what we found and the challenge facing the president is one that he began to address this morning. president told reporters raising the debt keelin

might be able to recognize that business is good enough. given the litany of events, the debt ceiling, tax holiday loss, i can't blame anyone for getting off the bull. the breaks in the action often don't last a full day, like today. what happens? what happens if evaluations turn out to be attractive or what happens if the world gets better? what happens if we solve the debt debacle? once we are through the debt ceiling what leverage do republicans have? and the last chance to derail the term. i think i know what happens, the same thing that has happened always when we have had so many break outs they are left behind by the wall of worry. ask yourself, do you think that this many analysts could be right? do you think that these companies are going to prove to be brilliant exit prices? no. i bet that this is one of those moments where the world economies are going to be better. i say that because it is the same behavior i've seen over and over and over again. down days are days to buy, not sell. in order to get into this bull market, here is the bottom line, i think this market is simp

previously stated he will not negotiate over raising the debt ceiling. >> some extreme weather making for a messy commute in several parts of the country this morning. in the northeast it's snow in the south a state of emergency declared in tennessee after an ice storm hit a large part of that of that state. >> in alabama the ice was half an inch thick causing dozens of accidents bringing down dres and power lines as well. let's go to maria molina whith what's going on today. >> we are looking at more ice accumulating across places like tennessee and kentucky and portions of mississippi and even places in the northeast dealing with some of the snow and also the freezing rain. we have freezing rain across the east. a quarter of an inch in the suburbs west of the city. we could have glaze on the roadways. snow over parts of new england. higher snowfall accumulations 3-5 inches of snow forecast. not a huge deal in terms of the snow. please be careful on the roads. lacking at freezing rain across area wesle and portions of kentucky. we have areas of plain rain across alabama and georgia.

tax-funded bailouts. period. >> years of spending under both parties add up and the debt ceiling talks of 2011 led to a budget attend off between democrats and republicans who took back control of the house of representatives in the midterms. >> is there a risk the united states could lose their aaa rating? yes-or-no. >> no risk. >> the debt ceiling was raised in august the political fight in the spot lighted on the deficit and debt problems less s&p to downgrade the u.s. credit rating for the first time in history. >> geithner steered the major economic moves in the first term and now he is stepping down. president obama's pick to replace him is jack lew, who has established a close relationship with the president. lew is not is chummy with republicans on the hill after the debt ceiling negotiation back in 2011. for that reason and others, his confirmation hearing could be bumpy. if confirmed, he will be dealing with the top issue in this second term, how to get the economy moving and addressing the country's long term fiscal problems. >> this is a president that is forced to grapple

. but the president says he will not have the debt ceiling tied to the bills congress has already racked up. >> what i will not do is to have that negotiation with a gun at the head of the american people. >> reporter: the debt ceiling deadline is just one of three budget showdowns the white house and congress face in the coming months. house speaker john boehner said if laws do not tackle the debt and spending at the same time, it will cost americans jobs. in a statement, senate minority leader mitch mcconnell said "the president and his allies need to get serious about spending." danielle nottingham, cbs news, the white house. >>> military suicides have reached record levels. so bad that the secretary of defense calls it an epidemic. the pentagon says there were 349 suicides among active duty personnel last year. that's more than the number of combat deaths in afghanistan. experts say iraq and afghanistan war veterans suffering from depression and post traumatic stress are at the highest risk. >>> secretary of state hillary clinton will testify next week about the deadl

a mistake by trying to link the debt ceiling to a deal on spending cuts. >> in the end, it's a threat they can't sustain. no one is going to default. no one is going to allow united states to not pay its bills. no one is going to accept the economic costs. it rallies the entire business community to the president's side. i don't think we should pick fights where we're in a position that we can't, in fact, in the end enforce our will. because we have no evidence of president obama's going to compromise. i think the president is deliberately seeking confrontation. he's going out of his way to bully the house republicans. >> and allen simpson, the co-founder of the campaign to fix the debt, also warning against bargaining over the debt ceiling. >> do you believe the gop should be using the debt ceiling as a leverage point to get the president to agree to the cuts? >> i think that would be a grave mistake. i don't think that would solve anything. i know they're going to try it. how far we'll go, i have no idea. if you're a real conservative, really honest conservative without hypocrisy, y

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